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<DIV>Might it be better to keep the way SSIDs are handled the way it is now but allow calls like SM7GVF/7 to be valid? </DIV>
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<DIV>Although currently not permitted, I see no reason to stop that format of callsign from logging in. Moreover, the /7 (or whatever) identifier says a lot more than the -7 ssid which makes no sense as a geographical identifier.</DIV>
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<DIV>Or is there something in packet cluster protocol that prevents calls containing a '/' ?</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>From:</B></I> <A href="mailto:K-Jarl@algonet.se">Kjell Jarl</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Date:</B></I> 03/24/05 16:13:47</DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>To:</B></I> <A href="mailto:dxspider-support@dxcluster.org">The DXSpider Support list</A></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><I><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [Dxspider-support] The SSID</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi Dirk,</DIV>
<DIV>I agree on the result of set/badspotter.</DIV>
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<DIV>However, ages ago, when I ran AK1A and DXNet, the SSID was presented as</DIV>
<DIV>the source of the spotter, DXNet could be configured to not to.</DIV>
<DIV>Currently I do not know about DXNet.</DIV>
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<DIV>I still want to be another station when using another SSID. I understand</DIV>
<DIV>it involves a major rework of your code.</DIV>
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<DIV>The advantage is twofold:</DIV>
<DIV>- Other users know I am not at home, the grid presented alongside my</DIV>
<DIV>spot is with the current location</DIV>
<DIV>- Other users can make a talk to the right call/SSID as it is presented</DIV>
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<DIV>The latter requires some knowledge from the users though.</DIV>
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<DIV>Could a workaround be to distribute all talk messages to all</DIV>
<DIV>(non-dxnode) SSID calls connected? So If some one make a "talk sm7gvf hi</DIV>
<DIV>there" it will be delivered to sm7gvf-7 as well? I think you have</DIV>
<DIV>mentioned that earlier.</DIV>
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<DIV>Could you tell more maybe about the future protocol for us?</DIV>
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<DIV>May I also add, that I appreciate all the work you have done with this</DIV>
<DIV>code, it is an excellent program, works very nicely. We are just</DIV>
<DIV>fiddling on details here. You have very much contributed to the</DIV>
<DIV>community of radio amateurs. Thank you!</DIV>
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<DIV>73</DIV>
<DIV>Kjell</DIV>
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<DIV>Dirk Koopman wrote:</DIV>
<DIV>> On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 07:52 +0100, Kjell Jarl wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>>>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV>>>Why would the SSID be not important? Or rather what you said Dirk?</DIV>
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<DIV>> I didn't say that it is not important.</DIV>
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<DIV>>>If I go to another (secondary perhaps) QTH and use SM7GVF-7, I would</DIV>
<DIV>>>like to be treated as another user with other grid locators and so on.</DIV>
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<DIV>> And that is normally what happens (and is how I intend it), although</DIV>
<DIV>> other people want to be treated more the same.</DIV>
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<DIV>>>Now not even spots I put out is with my SSID included. People hav no</DIV>
<DIV>>>idea I am at the other QTH.</DIV>
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<DIV>> Spots have never been shown with SSID (except by accident).</DIV>
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<DIV>>>I think this is in error.</DIV>
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<DIV>> Well, this is a very difficult area. The issue is essentially one of</DIV>
<DIV>> "how much of the 'personality' of G1TLH do I transfer to G1TLH-4". There</DIV>
<DIV>> seem to be to, more or less, equal and opposite views:-</DIV>
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<DIV>> 1. Treat SSIDs as the same person, mostly.</DIV>
<DIV>> 2. Treat SSIDs as different things that share the same callsign and</DIV>
<DIV>> name, but not much else, mostly.</DIV>
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<DIV>> This debate has happened many times in the past and what you have now is</DIV>
<DIV>> my interpretation of that. There are some issues, the most important of</DIV>
<DIV>> which is: you cannot have exactly the same callsign connect more than</DIV>
<DIV>> once to the same node. This is a fundamental limitation of the program.</DIV>
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<DIV>> However in the original context of "set/badspotter", the view (when</DIV>
<DIV>> these things brew up) is that sysops don't want to and actually can't</DIV>
<DIV>> stop all SSID variations of a station that they want to ignore in this</DIV>
<DIV>> way.</DIV>
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<DIV>> It does not matter to them whether you are home or at your second qth:</DIV>
<DIV>> if they want to set/badspot *you*, they want to do it wherever you</DIV>
<DIV>> are :-)</DIV>
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<DIV>> 73 Dirk</DIV>
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